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unknown
2004-09-13 04:32:58 UTC
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Maybe your problem come from the fact that you are trying to find
documention only on the internet. When you are starting to study a whole
new field; it may be a good idea to buy 3 or 4 good books on the topic.

Don't loose your time with Visual Basic, as it is no longer supported by
Microsoft (not sold anymore), won't compile under VS.NET and probably won't
serve you anything usefull if you don't have to modify an already existing
program.

As for VB.NET, it use the same OOP concepts as C#, use the same framework
and will have exactly the same level of complexity, no less, no more.
Excerpt for the syntax and unlike C++ and VB, tere is no real difference
beetween C# and VB.NET.

S. L.
Please forgive the long explanation but I feel I need to explain some
context
before my question(s).
I'm a hardware and infrastructure grunt with 15 years of experience in the
field. I have some very rudimentary programming skills, namely some
Legacy
BASIC, DOS BATch language and other mostly proprietary scripting languages
(old world spaghetti kind of stuff that isn't very useful anymore) and of
course some HTML. I'm diving head first in Visual Studio.NET because I
want
to expand my skill set in the software development arena. Initially I
decided to focus heavily on C# because I figured it's the next logical
generational improvement on C and C++. I'm struggling because all the
learning material I find assumes a firm understanding of C and/or OOP
concepts. Someone suggested that I start with VB and work my way up. It
sounds like good advice given the amount of "beginner" material out there.
However, I'm, perhaps unjustifiably, worried that VB may be for
"lightweight"
wall" type applications and that I might be heading down a wrong path with
VB
given that I'm aiming toward some graphics-based application ideas that I
have.
1. Is my concern about VB performance a legitimate one?
2. Does anyone know of any books and resources that cover C# without
assuming a prerequisite base in C, Java, C++ or or OOP concepts?
3. Can anyone offer ideas on another approach to my problem that I just
haven't thought of yet?
Thank you in advance,
Renato
Renato
2004-09-14 13:59:23 UTC
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Thank you! You definitely answered my question and I appreciate your
guidance. I would like to follow up with a related question if I may.

As I study for my MCAD, is it possible to accomplish MCAD or eventually MCSD
certification on my own with just off-the-shelf books and the VS.NET
Software, without enrolling in formalized certification classes, and just
taking the exams at the appropriate time and place when ready? Namely, is
there any truth to rumers that there will be questions on the exams that are
only covered in cert classes and not covered in any books? I'm on a low
bidjet.
Post by unknown
Maybe your problem come from the fact that you are trying to find
documention only on the internet. When you are starting to study a whole
new field; it may be a good idea to buy 3 or 4 good books on the topic.
Don't loose your time with Visual Basic, as it is no longer supported by
Microsoft (not sold anymore), won't compile under VS.NET and probably won't
serve you anything usefull if you don't have to modify an already existing
program.
As for VB.NET, it use the same OOP concepts as C#, use the same framework
and will have exactly the same level of complexity, no less, no more.
Excerpt for the syntax and unlike C++ and VB, tere is no real difference
beetween C# and VB.NET.
S. L.
Please forgive the long explanation but I feel I need to explain some
context
before my question(s).
I'm a hardware and infrastructure grunt with 15 years of experience in the
field. I have some very rudimentary programming skills, namely some
Legacy
BASIC, DOS BATch language and other mostly proprietary scripting languages
(old world spaghetti kind of stuff that isn't very useful anymore) and of
course some HTML. I'm diving head first in Visual Studio.NET because I
want
to expand my skill set in the software development arena. Initially I
decided to focus heavily on C# because I figured it's the next logical
generational improvement on C and C++. I'm struggling because all the
learning material I find assumes a firm understanding of C and/or OOP
concepts. Someone suggested that I start with VB and work my way up. It
sounds like good advice given the amount of "beginner" material out there.
However, I'm, perhaps unjustifiably, worried that VB may be for
"lightweight"
wall" type applications and that I might be heading down a wrong path with
VB
given that I'm aiming toward some graphics-based application ideas that I
have.
1. Is my concern about VB performance a legitimate one?
2. Does anyone know of any books and resources that cover C# without
assuming a prerequisite base in C, Java, C++ or or OOP concepts?
3. Can anyone offer ideas on another approach to my problem that I just
haven't thought of yet?
Thank you in advance,
Renato
unknown
2004-09-21 15:54:26 UTC
Permalink
Hi,

Sorry, but I cannot answer your question about MCAD or MCSD, as I have
never take it myself.

Regards,
S. L.
Post by Renato
Thank you! You definitely answered my question and I appreciate your
guidance. I would like to follow up with a related question if I may.
As I study for my MCAD, is it possible to accomplish MCAD or eventually MCSD
certification on my own with just off-the-shelf books and the VS.NET
Software, without enrolling in formalized certification classes, and just
taking the exams at the appropriate time and place when ready? Namely, is
there any truth to rumers that there will be questions on the exams that are
only covered in cert classes and not covered in any books? I'm on a low
bidjet.
Post by unknown
Maybe your problem come from the fact that you are trying to find
documention only on the internet. When you are starting to study a whole
new field; it may be a good idea to buy 3 or 4 good books on the topic.
Don't loose your time with Visual Basic, as it is no longer supported by
Microsoft (not sold anymore), won't compile under VS.NET and probably won't
serve you anything usefull if you don't have to modify an already existing
program.
As for VB.NET, it use the same OOP concepts as C#, use the same framework
and will have exactly the same level of complexity, no less, no more.
Excerpt for the syntax and unlike C++ and VB, tere is no real difference
beetween C# and VB.NET.
S. L.
Please forgive the long explanation but I feel I need to explain some
context
before my question(s).
I'm a hardware and infrastructure grunt with 15 years of experience in the
field. I have some very rudimentary programming skills, namely some
Legacy
BASIC, DOS BATch language and other mostly proprietary scripting languages
(old world spaghetti kind of stuff that isn't very useful anymore) and of
course some HTML. I'm diving head first in Visual Studio.NET because I
want
to expand my skill set in the software development arena. Initially I
decided to focus heavily on C# because I figured it's the next logical
generational improvement on C and C++. I'm struggling because all the
learning material I find assumes a firm understanding of C and/or OOP
concepts. Someone suggested that I start with VB and work my way up.
It
sounds like good advice given the amount of "beginner" material out there.
However, I'm, perhaps unjustifiably, worried that VB may be for
"lightweight"
wall" type applications and that I might be heading down a wrong path with
VB
given that I'm aiming toward some graphics-based application ideas that I
have.
1. Is my concern about VB performance a legitimate one?
2. Does anyone know of any books and resources that cover C# without
assuming a prerequisite base in C, Java, C++ or or OOP concepts?
3. Can anyone offer ideas on another approach to my problem that I just
haven't thought of yet?
Thank you in advance,
Renato
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